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SEAL OF GOD ...or the IMAGE that will demand worship
Started Oct 15
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OH NO...YOU HAVE ONE SIN YOU FORGOT TO PRAY FOR
Can you enter Heaven,
if you do not pray for forgiveness of your sins?
Can you enter Heaven
if you failed to pray for one single sin?
Have you ever been told:
You do the best you can...
and Jesus picks up the slack?
Do you think,
that you would go to heaven....
if you happened to die on a very "lucky day"
when your faith was very strong?
OR
Do you think, that you would go to hell....
if you happened to die
on a very "unlucky day"
when your… Continue
Posted on November 1, 2009 at 11:31pm —
Many spiritually blind believers
think that they truly are disciples of Christ,
but they go out telling the world
that Jesus Christ will not
take away the sin (singular ‘SIN’—ALL SIN) of the world,
as John the Baptist plainly said under inspiration of God,
that He would (John 1:29)
And that Jesus Christ
is NOT the SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD,
even though His Father plainly said that He is (1John 4:14)
And that God will not have all mankind to be saved,
though God inspired Paul to say
that He WILL sa… Continue
Posted on October 13, 2009 at 4:43am —
Do you truly believe-
what most Christians believe and teach?
Do they believe
the fire in 1Cor 3:15
burns mans’ works, but not the man himself? Yes
But do they teach
that this same fire in Rev 20:15
also burns works, not the man? No
Do they believe
that God is the Creator of ALL? Yes
But do they teach
that God created EVIL
as He says in (Isa 45:7)? No
Do they believe
that God is absolutely
and totally sovereign (Eph 1:11)? Yes
But do they teach
that God exercises sovereignty
over man’s sup… Continue
Posted on October 13, 2009 at 4:42am —
Why do Christians teach God is a Hypocrite, and it's okay?
I think you will agree...
that Jesus was pretty harsh
with the hypocrites of his day
So, why is it...
that when this same Jesus who tells us to
Be ye perfect-
as your Father in heaven...LOVE your enemies!!
(the ultimate sign of being ..PERFECT.. like the ..FATHER
Most Christians turn around and believe
that the God of PERFECT LOVE...
hates his enemies and will torture them
forever and ever and for billions of billions of years
Can… Continue
Posted on October 13, 2009 at 4:41am —
Not every one that says unto me, Lord, Lord
Matthew 7:21 and Luke 13:24
"Not every one that says unto me, Lord, Lord,
shall enter into the kingdom of heaven:
but he that DOES the will of my Father which is in heaven"
"Strive to enter in at the strait gate
for many, I say unto you,
will seek to enter in,
and shall not be able"
Jesus was speaking to THE JEWS in Matt 7:21;
and Jesus was speaking to THE JEWS in Luke 13:24
(He came only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel)
The Jews were the… Continue
Posted on October 13, 2009 at 4:39am —
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The Trinity as defined by Hastings Dictionary of the Bible Page 1015:
The Christian doctrine of God
as existing in three Persons and one Substance
is not demonstrable by logic or scriptural proof
Regardless, those that believe in and teach the Trinity
believe that it is, "...
a necessary "hypothesis"
that there are three persons to the Godhead:
God the Father …
The Holy Ghost (Spirit) …
Jesus Christ the Son of God
Hypothesis as defined by Webster's Dictionary:
A system or theory imagined or assumed
to account for what is not understood
An unproved theory, a speculative plan..
a formulation of underlying principles of
certain observed phenomena
which has been verified to some degree..
a conjecture; guess
Facts:
First of all, God ..IS.. Spirit; not "a" Spirit
John 4:24 "God is SPIRIT,
and those who are worshiping him
must be worshiping in spirit and truth"
Nowhere in the Scriptures
is God referred to or called
a "trinity" or a person or consisting of three
The word "three" is never used
in reference to Who or What God is
God is never called or referred to as "a person"
The Holy Spirit is never called "God"
Since Christ is the Son,
he cannot also be the Father or be coequal with his Father
Jesus plainly said:
John 14:28 "My Father is GREATER than I"
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee
the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent
Countless things can be said to "be ONE"
in numerous forms of close relationship;
In this close relationship
of purpose, will, harmony, etc; our Lord said:
John 10:30 "I and the Father, We are ONE"
One plus one plus one DOES NOT equal one
One God plus one God plus one God DOES NOT equal one God
One third of a God plus one third of a God plus one third of a God
DOES NOT equal one whole God
The Holy Spirit ..OF.. God cannot also be that same God
ANYTHING that is either "from" or "of " something ELSE
cannot also "BE" that something else no matter what or who it is
A "Father" and a "Son" CANNOT ALSO BE THE SAME PERSON
Jesus did not say: "I and the Father, We are one GOD," did He?
No, He did not
Do the Scriptures, however, tell us that there is only ONE GOD?
Yes, they do
Do the Scriptures, tell us WHO that ONE God is?
Yes, they do
Do the Scriptures tell us what the relationship
of Jesus Christ is with that ONE God? Yes, they do
In fact, all of these things are answered in ONE Scripture
Here is the ONLY Scripture you will EVER need for
understanding Who Jesus Christ and God the Father are
and how many Gods there are, and
Who composes that ONE God
1Cor 8:5-6
"For though there be that are called gods,
whether in heaven or in earth,
(as there be gods many and lords many,)
But to US there is but ONE God, the Father,
of whom are all things, and we in him;
and ONE Lord Jesus Christ, by whom
are all things and we by him
and the next verse:
Howbeit there is ..NOT..
in every man that KNOWLEDGE (ver 7)
How many Gods are there?
Answer: "ONE God"
Of Whom is this ONE God composed?
Answer: "the FATHER"
NOT, the Father, AND the Son, AND the Holy Ghost
Just, "the Father!" ONLY,
"the Father "ONE God,… the FATHER!"
Is Jesus Christ
an equal part of this "ONE God?"
NO, He is not
Let Gods' Word tell us
We don’t need to speculate and theorize
Here is Who and What Jesus Christ is,
He is the "ONE Lord"
This Scripture tells us that
"ALL IS OUT OF" GOD (the FATHER)
And this Scripture tells us that
"ALL IS THROUGH" Jesus Christ
God the Father is the first cause of all
and ALL IS OUT GOD,
even Jesus Christ is "OUT of God "
John 16:27-28
"...I (Jesus) came OUT from God ...
...I CAME OUT from the FATHER..."
Now if Jesus came out from the trinity,
why doesn’t the Scriptures say so?
He didn’t come out from the trinity
and He didn’t come out of the Holy Spirit,
but HE DID COME, "...OUT FROM THE FATHER!"
And after Jesus Christ came OUT from the Father,
ALL ELSE came THROUGH Jesus Christ:
Col 1: 14-17
Who (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God,
the firstborn of every creature:
For by him were all things created,
that are in heaven, and that are in the earth,
visible and invisible, whether they be thrones,
or dominions or principalities, or powers:
all things were created by him and for him:
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist
Christ came OUT FROM THE FATHER
and all else was created THROUGH Jesus Christ
No Trinity here!!
1Tim 2:5
For there is ONE God,
and ONE Mediator OF God and mankind, the MAN Christ Jesus..."
John 14:28
"...I am going to the Father, for the Father is GREATER than I"
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee
the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent
1Cor 11:3
"Now I want you to be aware
that the Head of every man is Christ,
yet the head of the woman is the man,
yet the Head of Christ IS GOD"
Eph 1:3
"Blessed be the God and Father OF our Lord Jesus Christ"
Col 1:3
"We are thanking the God and Father OF our Lord Jesus Christ"
1Pet 1:3
"Blessed be the God and Father " OF our Lord Jesus Christ,
Eph 1:17
"...that the GOD OF OUR LORD Jesus Christ, the FATHER..."
And just who was it; who raised Jesus from the grave?
Acts 2:24
"Ye men of Israel, hear these words,
Jesus of Nazareth... whom GOD HAS RAISED UP
having loosed the pains OF DEATH"
Rom 8:9,11,14
"But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
if so be that the Spirit OF GOD dwell in you...
But if the Spirit OF HIM (GOD the FATHER)
that RAISED UP JESUS FROM THE DEAD dwell in you,
He (GOD the FATHER)
that RAISED UP CHRIST FROM THE DEAD
shall also quicken your mortal bodies
by His Spirit that dwells in you...
For as many as are led
by the SPIRIT OF GOD (GOD the FATHER),
they are the sons of God
(God the Father, not sons of the Son)"
Gal 1:1
"Paul, an apostle,
(not of man, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ,
and GOD THE FATHER, WHO RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD")
Let me make this as easy as I can
There is one God; the Father
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God the Father
Jesus Christ the Son, came forth and proceeded
FROM and OUT …OF… God the Father
Then Jesus Christ did all the creating…
which is precisely why he being the "Creator"
could die and save his entire creation
The Son was given the full measure of the Fathers Spirit
and he in turn gives us measures of this same Spirit
If the trinity was true,
and the Holy Spirit was a person...
when the Holy Spirit
overshadowed Mary and she conceived-
Jesus would be the Son of the Holy Spirit and not the Son of God
In Conclusion,
Is Jesus God or is he not God?
Yes Jesus is God,
When the Pharisees accused Jesus of blaspheming
because He said He was "The SON of God,"
Jesus reminded them
that their own scriptures states that, "YE ARE GODS"
Psalm 82:6
"I have said, YE ARE GODS;
and all of you are CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH"
So Jesus is God and Ye are Gods
both having come forth from the ONLY true God-
but neither Jesus or Ye;
are or ever will be -
the ONLY true God the Father who is GREATEST of all
Eph 5:31-32
"For WE (believers) ARE members
of His (Jesus) body, of His flesh, and of His bones
For this cause shall a man
leave his father and mother,
and shall be joined unto his wife,
and they TWO shall be ONE flesh
This is a great mystery:
but I speak concerning Christ and THE CHURCH" …
"That they ALL may be ONE
(Who?-ALL; How many?-ONE)
as you Father are in Me, and I in You,
that they also may be ONE in US...
John 17:21-22
And the glory which You gave to Me I have given them,
that they may be ONE, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE"
This IS the Scripture that Jesus quoted
They didn't accept what Jesus said,
and some people will not accept what I am saying
Gen 2:24
"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother,
and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be ONE FLESH"
How many people?-TWO;
How many flesh?-ONE
There, the Scriptural answer!!
"...that they may be ONE,
even as WE (Jesus AND His Father) ARE ONE!!
HOW many Persons? Jesus & Father-TWO;
HOW many Gods?-ONE GOD
As a "husband and wife" ARE ONE,
and "Jesus and His Church," ARE ONE,
so also "Jesus and His Father," ARE ONE
Will there be two or three Gods
to choose from after the dust settles?
NO!!
Jesus
came forth and proceeded FROM and OUT of the Father
and is our bridge which brings what was lost
back unto the Father
For now he sits at the "right hand" of the Father
When he has accomplished
exactly what he came into being to DO
what will happen to him and his rule?
1Cor 15:24,25
Then shall the end come, when he (Christ)
hands over the Kingdom to God the Father
AFTER
he has destroyed all dominion, authority, and power
For he must reign ..UNTIL..
he has put all his enemies under his feet
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee
the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent
Does your son or daughter have to ask you everyday
for your forgiveness/love?
Do you not love them unconditionally?
Or is your love for them dependent upon their efforts
to earn and deserve your love?
Of course not!!
Your love is unconditional because they are your children
and they are a part of your very being and existence
LOOK AROUND YOU
Everything and everyone you see
came forth and proceeded from God
Everything and everyone
are a part of his very being and existence
WE ARE HIS CHILDREN
WHO ARE IN THE ON-GOING PROCESS
OF BECOMING SONS AND DAUGHTERS
Sin was not an unexpected shock
that surprised even our Creator
It was and is however, an important aspect
required in the process of each of us
being made into his very image
Although it temporarily separated us from our Father
he had prepared for it and for its elimination
through the Lamb prepared before the
foundations of the world
and we, being a part of his very being
would be saved by the death of Jesus
Do you really believe
that Jesus paid for ALL sin
for ALL time with his ONE offering?
And that he did indeed reconcile
all the children who were separated by sin
back unto the Father with the shedding
of his precious blood?
IS "PERFECT LOVE" CONDITIONAL?
dependent on you doing something
to earn or deserve this "perfect love"?
Is the Father of "Perfect Love"
the Father of imperfect "Conditional Love"
dependent on you doing something
to earn or deserve it?
No my friends
Just as your children do not have to ask
for your love/forgiveness every day
as long as they shall live
Neither do the Children of God
have to ask him for his love/forgiveness
every day as long as they shall live
Just as we parents out of our love for them
want our children to see and understand their mistakes
Our Father wants us to acknowledge
our mistakes by confessing them to him
which shows him that we know our failings
and therefore can learn from them to avoid
continually repeating the same errors
AFTER THE DEATH OF JESUS
WE NO LONGER HAVE TO ASK HIM FOR FORGIVENESS
WE HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN
Satan does not want you to know this
which results in you still carrying your sins
and yet claiming the Blood of Jesus
Yes, it is Satan himself who wants you
to keep asking for forgiveness
because if you continue to ask for forgiveness;
you are denying the Correct Faith
that he already took ALL sins for ALL time
and paid the price (judgment)
for ALL sins for ALL time
This incorrect faith allows Satan to argue
that you do not have the Correct Faith
and that you have not been reborn of the "Water"
there fore you are still carrying your sins
and therefore you indeed belong to him!!
Satan wants you to keep believing
that you have to pray daily for sins;
as a never-ending requirement to be saved
Read my writing with the pictures within:
Most Christians will die in their sins
For Satan has hidden the "WATER" aspect of salvation
from almost all the professing Christians of the world
(this is NOT about our Baptisms)
William Wilbur
http://www.myspace.com/water_spirit_blood
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Phil 2:13
it is God (not man)
which works in you BOTH TO WILL (God causes us ‘to will’)
and TO DO (God causes us ‘to do’)
of His good pleasure" to bring about His intentions
After years of following Jesus daily,
the apostles were not as yet converted
In the evening of the last Passover
Jesus tells Peter:
Luke 22:31-32
"And the Lord said, Simon, Simon,
behold Satan has desired to have you,
that he may sift you as wheat;
But I have prayed for you,
that your faith fall not:
and when you are converted,
strengthen your brethren"
Yes indeed, "when you are converted"
And just when might that be?
Up until the very last day with their Lord,
the apostles all believed that they
possessed the power of free will,
which could enable them to choose
their own destiny, and that they could
and would have the strength of self determinism
and free will to maintain that course
But Jesus told His disciples
that they would all forsake Him
In other words,
Jesus was foretelling of EVENTS that would cause
(even ‘force,’ if you will) them to change their wills,
against their previously stated wills
They of course, all denied
that Jesus knew what He was talking about
Mark 14:27 & Zech 13:7
"And Jesus said unto them,
all ye shall be offended because of Me this night;
for it is written, I shall smite the shepherd,
and the sheep shall be scattered"
The disciples all said
that they would remain loyal
but Jesus said that they would all
be offended because of Him
Was there a reason
for God causing the disciples
to will loyalty to Jesus and then
in the same night to will to deny Jesus?
Does God do anything in vain without a reason?
This was all part of their conversion process
God totally humiliated them by proving to them
that their own will was not free
to do what they wanted, but that
Phil. 2:13
"it is God (not man) which works in you
BOTH TO WILL (God causes us ‘to will’)
and TO DO (God causes us ‘to do’)
of His good pleasure"
to bring about His intentions
In just one night God smashed
the presumed free will of all the disciples
and they lost confidence in their flesh after that night
There are two things that constantly
oppose and change the will of man,
so that it cannot be said that the will
is free to will its own destiny
for even a day or an hour
What are these two factors
over which man has absolutely
no control whatsoever?
CIRCUMSTANCES
and
GOD’S WILL
CIRCUMSTANCES:
God changes the minds and wills of mankind
around the world, a billion times a minute,
through circumstances that "you know not"
which are actually the cause of your choices
and your changed choices
We are often if not most of the time
completely unaware of what actually
caused us to do or say or think as we do
How did all the disciples will
to remain loyal to Jesus no matter what,
at one moment in time, and in the next moment
they all changed their will to forsake Him?
What changed their wills?
Circumstances!!
One moment they were at ease and safe
in the upper room, and at a later moment
they were in the garden surrounded by Roman Soldiers!
Fear was the circumstance
that caused their (un-free) wills to change
So it was the presence of certain circumstances
that caused the disciples to will as they did
But what caused the circumstances
to be as they were to ensure
that they would will appropriately
to fulfill Christ’s prophecy concerning
their denying and forsaking Him?
GOD’S WILL:
Who was in charge of all these circumstances,
which caused the disciples to change their wills?
Why God, of course
They did not want to change their wills
They did not desire to deny their Lord and Saviour
They did not wish to make liars of themselves
They did not want to be shown to be cowards
Well then, why did they change their wills
if they did not wish to change their wills?
Were they free to not change their wills?
No, they were not free
The fear inside of them caused and made
(and yes, FORCED, if you will) them to change their will
And Jesus Himself told them
that they would change their wills,
so how pray tell could it have been otherwise?
God knew exactly what was needed
to make all of the disciples change their wills
God said that they would change their wills
and forsake Jesus,and God was not about
to be made a liar
Peter did not even know what it was that caused him
to deny Christ until the "cock crew"
In our above example with the disciples,
not only did they change their emphatically
stated will, but, they did so against their stated will
Even when they willed to change their will,
they did so against their original desired will
Peter did not want to deny Christ
But he was made to deny Christ
by the mere fact that the alternative (fear)
was greater than his desire to remain loyal
And so, how was he "free" to remain loyal?
He wasn’t
Peter was no more "free" to not deny Jesus
any more than he was "free"
to be loyal in his original choice
Both choices were caused,
and once something is caused to happen,
it could never had been otherwise
Once the cause is set in motion, the effect must follow
God brought about circumstances that
caused, made, forced, Peter to do
what he didn’t want to do
How then, can such a forced will, be free?
Peter didn't will to deny Jesus,
but he was clearly caused to do so
This is an example of how God causes men
to change their will even when it is against
their initial will to do so
How much easier and unrecognizable
are the millions of choices we make
in which we very willingly make the decisions we do,
because they often appear to be pleasant, profitable,
and desirable choices?
This example of the disciples forsaking Jesus is so important!!
Can we believe that Jesus
could have told His disciples the following:
"And Jesus said unto them,
All ye shall be offended because of me this night,
but then again,
maybe not all of you will be offended,
seeing that all of you have a free will
Or maybe this to Peter:
"And Jesus said unto him (Peter)
Verily I say unto you, that this day, even in this night,
before the cock crow twice, thou shall deny me thrice,
but then again,
maybe you won’t deny Me three times,
seeing that you have a free will
that does not need to deny me even once
It doesn’t depend on what I say,
or circumstances brought about by my Father,
or what God declares,
but rather on your own "free will"
Sounds a little silly
when we look at it logically doesn’t it?
Yet this is the contention
of those who believe in "free will"
Maybe Peter will,
but then again maybe Peter won’t,
NOT EVEN GOD KNOWS FOR SURE
Almost sounds like blasphemy, doesn’t it?
It is blasphemy to argue that when God
prophesies, states, and intends
that someone do a particular thing,
that the person is still at liberty
because of his supposed free will,
to not do what God has said
Yet this is what the theory of "free will" demands
The fact that God has a foreknowledge of everything
proves that free will is an impossibility,
True "free will" could alter the future and therefore
God could not have an absolute and true
knowledge of the future
Therefore, it is a grave error to state
that man has a free will that is not
"made" or "caused" to do as it does,
and yet state that God knows in advance
the only possible choice that a person must make
How can one believe
that if God states that a person will make choice A,
that he is nonetheless still at liberty to make choice B?
Let me restate that:
Can God say that you WILL make choice A,
but you can make choice B?
Can God say that such and such, WILL happen
but that it doesn’t need to happen?
The disciples WILL forsake and deny Christ,
but they have a free choice NOT to forsake and deny Him?
God knows in advance that something WILL be a certain way,
and yet it doesn’t have to be that way?
Peter thought he possessed free will:
Matt 26:33
"Peter answered and said unto Him,
Though all men shall be offended because of you,
YET WILL I NEVER BE OFFENDED"
Jesus responded that Peter had no freedom of the will
to stick by such a statement
"Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee,
That this night, before the cock crow,
YOU SHALL DENY ME thrice" (Ver 34)
Peter again responds
from the throne of his presumed free will
and CORRECTS Jesus to His face:
"Peter said unto Him,
Though I should DIE WITH THEE,
YET WILL I NOT DENY THEE
Likewise also said ALL THE DISCIPLES"
(Ver 35)
And the rest is history
When Peter
was confronted the third time we read this:
Matt 26:74 & 75
"Then began he to curse and to swear,
saying, I KNOW NOT THE MAN
And immediately the cock crew
and he went out, and wept bitterly"
Free will? Where? Give it up!!
What about all of the other disciples
who also thought they possessed this power
of free will and self-determinism?
Matt 26:56
"But all this was done,
that the Scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled
Then ALL THE DISCIPLES FORSOOK HIM, AND FLED"
Free will? FREE will? FREE WILL?
Where?
If you still believe man has a will that is "free"
from external and internal causes, beyond his control,
then your arguments are not with me, but with God’s Word
Now for maybe the most profound
and all-encompassing statements in all Scripture:
Eph 1:11
"In Whom (GOD) also we have obtained
(‘obtained’ not ‘earned’) an inheritance,
being PREDESTINATED
(our ‘destiny’ was ‘pre’ arranged by God, not us)
according to the PURPOSE OF HIM
(not the free will, OF US!)
Who WORKS ALL THINGS (EVERY thing)
AFTER THE COUNSEL OF HIS OWN WILL
(not OUR OWN WILL)